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 楼主| 发表于 2008-9-5 02:12  ·  加拿大 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
新闻连接:http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/ ... ks-to-run/#comments



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Secret Wii recovery mode discovered, allows backup disks to run UPDATE: Maybe not.
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Wii的隐藏恢复模式被发现,允许使用备份盘片执行更新(或者不能)

Getting the Wii to run backup disks has never been quite as easy as running homebrew, but that might be about to change -- there's apparently a secret recovery mode that can be accessed with a special GameCube memory card. Not much is being revealed yet, but apparently if a "device" with a unique ID signature is present in the slot at boot, the Wii will drop into recovery mode and happily run whatever you throw at it, from backup disks to homebrew code. Hopefully we'll find out more soon -- video after the break.
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让wii运行备份盘片从没有和运行homebrew一样简单,但是这个现状即将改变--利用GameCube的一种特殊记忆卡,可以开启隐藏恢复模式。目前还没有太大的进展,但是将一个拥有唯一ID签名的设备在插到wii的插槽里然后启动,wii将进入恢复模式,并且不管你扔什么进去,从备份盘片到Homebrew代码,都跑的很happy。我们很有希望发现更多的东西。--破解后的视频

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Update: It looks like the recovery mode is only good for fixing "certain bricked consoles" -- so much for that.
更新: 貌似恢复模式目前只能用来修复“全砖”机器。


评论中有个人讲解了下:
Not so fast, recovery modes usually come into play before the OS/firmware boots in the case that the OS is corrupt. That's how you refurbish a Wii that won't start assuming the hardware is still good.
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恢复模式一般都是在系统或者固件启动之前载入,载入之后,系统也就停止启动了。这也是翻新一台硬件完好但是启动不了的wii的方法。

This is why the pandora battery trick for the PSP still works, that's how Sony fixes them to resell. You sure can make a unit without a recovery mode, but imagine all the "dead" PSPs and Wiis they would just have to throw out instead of selling again.
*****************************************************************************
这也是为什么潘多拉电池可以修复PSP,Sony也是这样来修复机器然后重新发售。你肯定可以制造个没有恢复模式的产品,但是想象一下,所有变砖变瓦片的PSP,Wii,它们肯定不会被直接扔掉(有保修的行货变砖之后有客服吧?)


Finding a recovery mode is pretty much game over for any DRM you had because it allows you to load things before the OS boots (like something to disable the DRM checks on game discs).
*****************************************************************************
发现恢复模式可以让任何数字版权管理失效,因为你可以在OS(数字版权管理通常是在OS里实现的)启动之前利用恢复模式读取一些程序。


草草看了下,文章的概要就是:
因为任天堂之类的公司要***,买了行货的玩家遇到变砖之后应该可以选择回厂返修,恢复模式就是工厂修理砖头的方法,返修之后,机器翻新下又可以卖了。然后有人发现了wii的恢复模式(据说是一种特殊的Game Cude的记忆卡),认为在恢复模式加载的时候,添加点自己的程序,可能能解决掉Wii的数字版权管理,但是目前没有找到更多的东西,也没有人写出可以挂在恢复模式下运行的程序。目前最大的可能就是只要硬件完好,再大再结实的砖头也能修复。


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marcan对此事的回应:
Apparently tehskeen took a month-old video, coupled it with a paragraph of reality and a paragraph of rampant speculation and nonsense, and made it into a news story. This is undoubtedly going to spread around as these things do, so I’m going to stop it dead in its tracks.

It’s not a pandora battery. It won’t help custom firmwares. It has nothing to do with upgrading or downgrading IOS. It has limitations. It only helps with certain very specific cases.

I’ll post details about it when the time comes, since it’s certainly useful to fix certain types of bricks, but for now don’t believe any random nonsense that you hear about it.  
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发表于 2008-9-5 02:49  ·  河北 | 显示全部楼层
现在的功能可以修砖机?

英文太差,不是非常明白
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发表于 2008-9-5 08:58  ·  广东 | 显示全部楼层
嗯,等待高人来翻译一下……
似乎说WII的某一个隐藏模式被发现了,可以直接运行D版?

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发表于 2008-9-5 09:25  ·  北京 | 显示全部楼层
Secret Wii recovery mode discovered, allows backup disks to run UPDATE: Maybe not.
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Wii的隐藏恢复模式被发现,允许使用备份盘片执行更新(或者不能)

Getting the Wii to run backup disks has never been quite as easy as running homebrew, but that might be about to change -- there's apparently a secret recovery mode that can be accessed with a special GameCube memory card. Not much is being revealed yet, but apparently if a "device" with a unique ID signature is present in the slot at boot, the Wii will drop into recovery mode and happily run whatever you throw at it, from backup disks to homebrew code. Hopefully we'll find out more soon -- video after the break.
***************************************************************************
让wii运行备份盘片从没有和运行homebrew一样简单,但是这个现状即将改变--利用GameCube的一种特殊记忆卡,可以开启隐藏恢复模式。目前还没有太大的进展,但是将一个拥有唯一ID签名的设备在插到wii的插槽里然后启动,wii将进入恢复模式,并且不管你扔什么进去,从备份盘片到Homebrew代码,都跑的很happy。我们很有希望发现更多的东西。--破解后的视频

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Update: It looks like the recovery mode is only good for fixing "certain bricked consoles" -- so much for that.
更新: 貌似恢复模式目前只能用来修复“全砖”机器。

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发表于 2008-9-5 09:31  ·  未知 | 显示全部楼层
恩,帮LZ弄了一下,改成视频直播了^_^
还没仔细看这个news,如果能软件修全砖,可就是一大突破啊~

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发表于 2008-9-5 09:37  ·  北京 | 显示全部楼层

Re:Wii破解又有新进展,距离软破解只有一步之遥

评论中有个人讲解了下:
Not so fast, recovery modes usually come into play before the OS/firmware boots in the case that the OS is corrupt. That's how you refurbish a Wii that won't start assuming the hardware is still good.
***************************************************************************
恢复模式一般都是在系统或者固件启动之前载入,载入之后,系统也就停止启动了。这也是翻新一台硬件完好但是启动不了的wii的方法。

This is why the pandora battery trick for the PSP still works, that's how Sony fixes them to resell. You sure can make a unit without a recovery mode, but imagine all the "dead" PSPs and Wiis they would just have to throw out instead of selling again.
*****************************************************************************
这也是为什么潘多拉电池可以修复PSP,Sony也是这样来修复机器然后重新发售。你肯定可以制造个没有恢复模式的产品,但是想象一下,所有变砖变瓦片的PSP,Wii,它们肯定不会被直接扔掉(有保修的行货变砖之后有客服吧?)


Finding a recovery mode is pretty much game over for any DRM you had because it allows you to load things before the OS boots (like something to disable the DRM checks on game discs).
*****************************************************************************
发现恢复模式可以让任何数字版权管理失效,因为你可以在OS(数字版权管理通常是在OS里实现的)启动之前利用恢复模式读取一些程序。

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发表于 2008-9-5 09:43  ·  北京 | 显示全部楼层

Re:Wii破解又有新进展,距离软破解只有一步之遥[3楼由53an同学提供相关翻译]

草草看了下,文章的概要就是:
因为任天堂之类的公司要***,买了行货的玩家遇到变砖之后应该可以选择回厂返修,恢复模式就是工厂修理砖头的方法,返修之后,机器翻新下又可以卖了。然后有人发现了wii的恢复模式(据说是一种特殊的Game Cude的记忆卡),认为在恢复模式加载的时候,添加点自己的程序,可能能解决掉Wii的数字版权管理,但是目前没有找到更多的东西,也没有人写出可以挂在恢复模式下运行的程序。目前最大的可能就是只要硬件完好,再大再结实的砖头也能修复。

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发表于 2008-9-5 09:53  ·  未知 | 显示全部楼层
twiizers大牛marcan对此事的回应:(呼唤E文达人继续翻译)
Apparently tehskeen took a month-old video, coupled it with a paragraph of reality and a paragraph of rampant speculation and nonsense, and made it into a news story. This is undoubtedly going to spread around as these things do, so I’m going to stop it dead in its tracks.

It’s not a pandora battery. It won’t help custom firmwares. It has nothing to do with upgrading or downgrading IOS. It has limitations. It only helps with certain very specific cases.

I’ll post details about it when the time comes, since it’s certainly useful to fix certain types of bricks, but for now don’t believe any random nonsense that you hear about it.  

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发表于 2008-9-5 09:58  ·  河北 | 显示全部楼层
有了这个东西不光可以修砖头,还可以代替***了

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发表于 2008-9-5 10:02  ·  北京 | 显示全部楼层
下面是引用28210442于2008-09-05 09:58发表的:
有了这个东西不光可以修砖头,还可以代替***了

不过貌似被marcan大神猛拍了一砖。。。。。
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