日式欧美RPG，大家觉得哪个更强？？？

xisailuo

下面是引用笑破红尘于2005-11-24 19:38发表的:


如果真的个个都是百万，现在欧美RPG的状况还至于如此惨淡么？

必须要提醒你，请不要捏造事实，杜撰虚假论据是很让人鄙视的
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这几年的欧美大作，从上古卷轴3开始，FABLE，星战，哪个没破？


人家少而精，BIOWARE，Bethesda活得滋润呢


按照电脑商情报的说法连圣域这样的二流货色都卖了200万

一动也不动

口袋妖怪算不算rpg，这个销量很高。

huntercai

下面是引用一动也不动于2005-11-24 22:03发表的:
口袋妖怪算不算rpg，这个销量很高。

当然算 这个已经上亿的销量了

rpg狂人

欧美出的都是ARPG游戏。。。。。日式的RPG才是王道。

xisailuo

下面是引用knjy于2005-11-24 18:47发表的:


无语了....   

你说看排名那也可以, 说实话, 一些日式的老美的确不是很适应, 比如DQ系列, 但他们对很多日式RPG评价却不低， 比如CC，CT等。
你不妨还是仔细看看权威的排名吧.

1.    Planescape: Torment    8.67    583    Write a review   
2.    Baldur's Gate 2 - Shadows of Amn    8.66    698    Write a review   
3.    Elder Scrolls 3 - Morrowind    8.65    1318    Write a review   
4.    Baldur's Gate    8.64    230    Write a review   
5.    Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic    8.59    335    Write a review   
6.    Fallout - A Post Nuclear Adventure    8.56    619    Write a review   
7.    Ultima 7 - The Black Gate    8.52    325    Write a review   
8.    Fallout 2    8.46    439    Write a review   
Deus Ex    8.46    207    Write a review   
10.    System Shock 2    8.33    137    Write a review   
11.    Ultima Underworld 1 - The Stygian Abyss    8.24    134    Write a review   
12.    Elder Scrolls 3 - Morrowind: Bloodmoon    8.21    259    Write a review   
13.    Betrayal at Krondor    8.18    143    Write a review   
14.    Gothic 2    8.13    935    Write a review   
15.    Ultima 7 - Serpent Isle (Sequel)    8.12    165    Write a review   
16.    Baldur's Gate 2 - Throne of Bhaal    8.06    142    Write a review   
17.    Gothic    8.04    441    Write a review   
18.    Baldur's Gate - Tales of the Sword Coast    8.02    52    Write a review   
19.    Might & Magic 6 - The Mandate of Heaven    8.01    113    Write a review   
20.    Arcanum - Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura    7.99    193    Write a review   
21.    Wizardry 8    7.97    315    Write a review   
Elder Scrolls 3 - Morrowind: Tribunal    7.97    196    Write a review   
23.    Divine Divinity    7.96    220    Write a review   
24.    Arx Fatalis    7.95    331    Write a review   
25.    Wasteland    7.92    117    Write a review   
26.    Neverwinter Nights: Hordes of the Underdark    7.89    19    Write a review   
Jagged Alliance 2    7.89    120    Write a review   
Gothic 2 - Die Nacht des Raben    7.89    115    Write a review   
29.    Ultima Underworld 2 - Labyrinth of Worlds    7.88    100    Write a review   
Elder Scrolls 2 - Daggerfall    7.88    121    Write a review   
31.    Wizardry 7 - Crusader of the Dark Savant    7.86    120    Write a review   
32.    Might & Magic 7 - For Blood and Honor    7.85    53    Write a review   
33.    Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic 2: The Sith Lords    7.84    45    Write a review   
34.    Final Fantasy VII    7.83    108    Write a review   
Icewind Dale 2    7.83    82    Write a review   
36.    Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines    7.82    56    Write a review   
37.    Neverwinter Nights    7.78    270    Write a review   
38.    Darklands    7.77    53    Write a review   
39.    Ultima 6 - The False Prophet    7.76    55    Write a review   
Realms of Arkania 3 - Shadows over Riva    7.76    46    Write a review   
Jagged Alliance    7.76    50    Write a review   
Illarion    7.76    45    Write a review   
43.    Quest for Glory 1 - So You Want to be a Hero?    7.75    68    Write a review   
Amberstar    7.75    16    Write a review   
Wizardry 6 - Bane of the Cosmic Forge    7.75    63    Write a review   
46.    Thief - The Dark Project    7.74    46    Write a review   
Ultima 4 - Quest of the Avatar    7.74    65    Write a review   
Thief 2 - The Metal Age    7.74    61    Write a review   
Icewind Dale    7.74    76    Write a review   
Worlds of Ultima 2 - Martian Dreams    7.74    19    Write a review   
51.    Darkest Day    7.73    15    Write a review   
Jagged Alliance - Deadly Games    7.73    37    Write a review   
Wizardry 1 - Proving Grounds of the Mad Overlord    7.73    59    Write a review   
Rubies of Eventide    7.73    22    Write a review   
55.    Dungeon Master 2 - The Legend of Skullkeep    7.72    18    Write a review   
Freelancer    7.72    43    Write a review   
57.    Realms of Arkania 1 - Blade of Destiny    7.71    45    Write a review   
Might & Magic 5 - Darkside of Xeen    7.71    24    Write a review   
Eve Online: The Second Genesis    7.71    68    Write a review   
Geneforge 2    7.71    17    Write a review   
61.    System Shock    7.70    60    Write a review   
Jagged Alliance 2 - Unfinished Business    7.70    40    Write a review   
63.    Evil Islands    7.69    36    Write a review   
Dungeon Master    7.69    70    Write a review   
Elder Scrolls 1 - Arena    7.69    35    Write a review   
A Tale in the Desert    7.69    35    Write a review   
67.    Neocron    7.68    25    Write a review   
68.    Meridian 59    7.67    51    Write a review   
Eye of the Beholder 2 - The Legend of Darkmoon    7.67    36    Write a review   
Ultima 5 - Warriors of Destiny    7.67    30    Write a review   
Curse Of The Azure Bonds    7.67    24    Write a review   
72.    Realms of Arkania 2 - Star Trail    7.66    50    Write a review   
Bard's Tale 1 - Tales from the Unknown    7.66    41    Write a review   
Heroes of Might & Magic 3 - The Restauration of Erathia    7.66    32    Write a review   
75.    Lands of Lore 1 - The Throne Of Chaos    7.65    43    Write a review   
Wizardry 5 - Heart of the Maelstrom    7.65    40    Write a review   
Wizardry 2 - Knight of Diamonds    7.65    31    Write a review   
Wizardry 3 - The Legacy of Llylgamyn    7.65    31    Write a review   
79.    Avernum 2    7.64    14    Write a review   
Wizardry 4 - Return of Werdna    7.64    39    Write a review   
Blade of Darkness    7.64    36    Write a review   
82.    Might & Magic 2 - Gates to Another World    7.63    19    Write a review   
Ultima 3 - Exodus    7.63    27    Write a review   
The Temple of Elemental Evil - A Classic Greyhawk Adventure    7.63    56    Write a review   
85.    Vampire: The Masquerade - Redemption    7.62    53    Write a review   
Underlight    7.62    55    Write a review   
Dark Age of Camelot    7.62    125    Write a review   
88.    Sacred    7.61    57    Write a review   
Asheron's Call    7.61    44    Write a review   
King's Bounty    7.61    31    Write a review   
91.    Dransik    7.60    43    Write a review   
Final Fantasy VIII    7.60    30    Write a review   
93.    Freedom Force    7.59    37    Write a review   
94.    Ultima Online    7.58    24    Write a review   
Neverwinter Nights: Shadows of Undrentide    7.58    19    Write a review   
96.    Might & Magic 3 - Isles of Terra    7.57    35    Write a review   
Albion    7.57    28    Write a review   
Anvil of Dawn    7.57    14    Write a review   
99.    Icewind Dale - Heart of Winter    7.56    27    Write a review   
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RPGDOT的榜单


gamerankings
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1. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic XBOX LucasArts 102 9.0 93.9% 94.8%
2. Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn PC Interplay 34 8.9 93.5% 94.4%
3. Pokemon Silver GBC Nintendo 20 8.0 90.6% 93.1%
4. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic PC LucasArts 50 8.8 92.9% 93.1%
5. Chrono Cross PS Square Enix 42 8.7 92.2% 93.0%
6. Baldur's Gate PC Interplay 20 8.7 91.3% 92.5%
7. Vagrant Story PS Square Enix 40 8.4 91.1% 92.5%
8. Final Fantasy IX PS Square Enix 48 8.7 91.8% 92.1%
9. Final Fantasy VII PS SCEA 30 9.1 92.9% 91.7%
10. World of Warcraft PC Blizzard Entertainment 59 8.4 90.5% 91.7%
11. Final Fantasy X PS2 Square Enix 75 8.7 91.8% 90.9%
12. Planescape: Torment PC Interplay 43 8.7 91.0% 90.7%
13. Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga GBA Nintendo 66 8.7 90.5% 90.4%
14. Skies of Arcadia DC Sega 44 8.8 90.4% 90.3%
15. Golden Sun GBA Nintendo 54 8.7 89.6% 89.9%
16. Final Fantasy VIII PS Square Enix 35 8.4 89.1% 89.8%
17. Phantasy Star Online DC Sega 44 8.6 89.7% 89.4%
18. Jade Empire XBOX Microsoft Game Studios 90 8.5 88.8% 89.4%
19. The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind PC Bethesda Softworks 54 8.7 89.6% 89.4%
20. The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind Game of the Year Edition XBOX Bethesda Softworks 24 8.7 88.3% 89.3%
21. Paper Mario N64 Nintendo 33 8.7 88.9% 89.0%
22. Guild Wars PC NCsoft 49 8.4 89.8% 89.0%
23. Diablo II PC Blizzard Entertainment 55 8.6 87.5% 89.0%
24. EverQuest: The Ruins of Kunark PC SCEA 20 6.8 88.0% 88.9%
25. Neverwinter Nights PC Atari 62 8.3 89.5% 88.9%
26. Dark Cloud 2 PS2 SCEA 79 8.4 88.8% 88.7%
27. Baldur's Gate II: Throne of Bhaal PC Interplay 30 8.3 87.9% 88.6%
28. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door GC Nintendo 66 8.5 87.6% 88.4%
29. Final Fantasy Anthology PS Square Enix 20 8.6 85.1% 88.3%
30. Final Fantasy Chronicles PS Square Enix 21 8.5 85.6% 88.2%
31. Freedom Force PC Crave 38 7.9 87.9% 87.9%
32. Grandia II DC Ubisoft 35 8.5 87.6% 87.5%
33. EverQuest PC Sony Online Entertainment 30 6.8 88.2% 87.2%
34. Kingdom Hearts PS2 Square Enix 86 8.5 87.5% 86.9%
35. Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords PC LucasArts 30 8.0 86.4% 86.9%
36. Dark Age of Camelot PC Mythic Entertainment 27 6.9 87.1% 86.9%
37. Grandia PS SCEA 34 8.1 84.6% 86.9%
38. Suikoden III PS2 Konami 34 8.4 86.6% 86.8%
39. Golden Sun: The Lost Age GBA Nintendo 50 8.6 87.1% 86.7%
40. Animal Crossing GC Nintendo 75 8.4 87.6% 86.7%
41. Final Fantasy X-2 PS2 Square Enix 76 8.0 85.0% 86.6%
42. Tales of Symphonia GC Namco 74 8.5 86.0% 86.2%
43. Diablo II: Lord of Destruction PC Blizzard Entertainment 38 8.4 84.4% 86.2%
44. The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind XBOX Bethesda Softworks 76 8.5 86.3% 86.2%
45. Freedom Force vs. The Third Reich PC Irrational Games 45 7.3 85.2% 86.0%
46. Skies of Arcadia Legends GC Sega 57 8.3 85.7% 85.8%
47. Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords XBOX LucasArts 68 8.5 86.2% 85.8%
48. Shadow Hearts: Covenant PS2 Midway 46 8.3 85.5% 85.7%
49. Final Fantasy XI PS2 SCEA 56 7.9 84.8% 85.7%
50. Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance GC Nintendo 30 8.7 85.6% 85.6%
51. Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance PS2 VU Games 63 8.2 84.5% 85.4%
52. Fallout 2 PC Interplay 28 8.7 86.8% 85.4%
53. X-Men Legends II: Rise of Apocalypse PSP Activision 21 7.5 84.6% 85.3%
54. Icewind Dale PC Interplay 43 8.1 85.1% 85.3%
55. City of Heroes PC NCsoft 54 7.6 86.2% 85.3%
56. Fable XBOX Microsoft Game Studios 106 8.3 85.2% 85.2%
57. Neverwinter Nights: Hordes of the Underdark PC Atari 31 7.5 84.8% 85.1%
58. Champions of Norrath PS2 Sony Online Entertainment 71 8.2 85.3% 85.1%
59. Xenosaga Episode I: Der Wille zur Macht PS2 Namco 60 8.3 83.9% 84.7%
60. Wizardry 8 PC Sirtech 26 8.2 86.0% 84.6%
61. Dungeon Siege PC Microsoft Game Studios 60 7.6 84.5% 84.5%
62. Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga 2 PS2 Atlus Co. 21 7.5 83.7% 84.4%
63. Pokemon Ruby Version GBA Nintendo 51 7.8 82.8% 84.3%
64. Final Fantasy XI PC Square Enix 41 8.0 83.7% 84.2%
65. Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete PS Working Designs 22 8.3 84.3% 84.2%
66. Pokemon Sapphire Version GBA Nintendo 48 8.2 83.2% 84.1%
67. Valkyrie Profile PS Square Enix 21 8.1 83.1% 83.9%
68. Asheron's Call 2: Fallen Kings PC Microsoft Game Studios 29 7.0 82.4% 83.8%
69. EverQuest II PC Sony Online Entertainment 49 7.2 83.7% 83.7%
70. X-Men Legends II: Rise of Apocalypse PS2 Activision 43 8.2 81.7% 83.7%
71. Fable: The Lost Chapters PC Microsoft Game Studios 56 8.1 83.9% 83.5%
72. X-Men Legends II: Rise of Apocalypse XBOX Activision 50 8.1 83.0% 83.5%
73. Phantasy Star Online Episode I & II GC Sega 53 8.3 83.5% 83.3%
74. Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne PS2 Atlus Co. 42 7.9 83.9% 83.3%
75. Lunar 2: Eternal Blue Complete PS Working Designs 21 8.1 83.3% 83.0%
76. Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance XBOX Interplay 52 8.0 83.2% 82.7%
77. X-Men Legends XBOX Activision 66 7.6 82.6% 82.7%
78. Phantasy Star Online Episode I & II XBOX Microsoft Game Studios 48 7.8 81.5% 82.5%
79. The Elder Scrolls III: Bloodmoon PC Bethesda Softworks 30 8.4 82.9% 82.5%
80. Pokemon FireRed Version GBA Nintendo 39 7.9 81.9% 82.3%
81. Icewind Dale II PC Interplay 34 7.8 81.5% 82.3%
82. X-Men Legends GC Activision 45 7.9 82.2% 82.2%
83. Star Ocean: Till the End of Time PS2 Square Enix 57 8.2 80.6% 82.2%
84. Nox PC Westwood Studios 35 7.5 82.4% 82.2%
85. X-Men Legends II: Rise of Apocalypse GC Activision 31 8.0 81.8% 82.1%
86. Suikoden II PS Konami 22 8.3 81.1% 82.1%
87. Harvest Moon: Friends of Mineral Town GBA Natsume 31 7.6 82.4% 82.1%
88. Divine Divinity PC CDV Software 28 7.6 82.1% 82.0%
89. Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga PS2 Atlus Co. 36 7.5 82.4% 81.9%
90. Breath of Fire IV PS Capcom 27 7.8 79.5% 81.9%
91. Pokemon LeafGreen Version GBA Nintendo 38 7.7 82.0% 81.8%
92. The Elder Scrolls III: Tribunal PC Bethesda Softworks 25 8.1 80.7% 81.8%
93. Asheron's Call PC Microsoft Game Studios 28 6.9 82.4% 81.7%
94. PlanetSide PC Sony Online Entertainment 46 7.2 82.4% 81.4%
95. Earth & Beyond PC Electronic Arts 30 6.6 81.1% 81.4%
96. Mega Man Battle Network GBA Capcom 22 7.5 80.5% 81.3%
97. Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance II PS2 Interplay 58 8.0 80.3% 81.2%
98. Baten Kaitos: Eternal Wings and the Lost Ocean GC Namco 54 8.0 81.5% 81.1%
99. Growlanser Generations PS2 Working Designs 21 7.2 80.5% 81.0%
100. Dragon Warrior VII PS Enix Corporation 26 8.0 77.3% 80.9%

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gamerankings

knjy

下面是引用xisailuo于2005-11-24 22:19发表的:



1.    Planescape: Torment    8.67    583    Write a review   
2.    Baldur's Gate 2 - Shadows of Amn    8.66    698    Write a review   
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  晕, 这么长.  　你贴的第2个表那是wave4ever贴过的，　我没意见．　　但你的第一个评分表能代表权威吗？　　

knjy

　一样的gamerankings,  我也可以贴．
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1. Chrono Trigger   SNES     Square Enix 27     9.296.2%    95.4%
2. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past SNES     Nintendo 21 9.2 95.0% 95.7%
3. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic XBOX     LucasArts 174 9.0    93.9% 94.9%
4. Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn PC     Interplay 60 8.9    93.5%    94.4%
5. Final Fantasy VII  PS     SCEA 50     9.1    92.9%    91.7%
6. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic PC LucasArts 76 8.892.9%    93.1
7. Chrono Cross PS     Square Enix 75     8.7    92.2%    93.0%
8. Xenogears PS     Square Enix 34     8.6    92.1%    91.1%
9. Final Fantasy X PS2     Square Enix 140     8.7    91.8%    90.9%
10. Final Fantasy IX PS     Square Enix 74     8.7    91.8%    92.1%
11. Baldur's Gate PC     Interplay 32     8.7    91.3%    92.5%
12. Vagrant Story PS     Square Enix 66     8.4    91.1%    92.5%
13. Planescape: Torment PC     Interplay 66     8.7    91.0%    90.7%
14. Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King PS2     Square Enix 25     8.8    90.8%    91.0%
15. Pokemon Silver GBC     Nintendo 36     8.0    90.6%    93.1%
16. World of Warcraft PC     Blizzard Entertainment 97 8.4    90.5%    91.7%
17. Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga GBA     Nintendo 98 8.7    90.5%    90.4%
18. Skies of Arcadia DC     Sega 79     8.8    90.4%    90.3%
19. Guild Wars PC     NCsoft 70     8.5    89.8%    89.0%
20. Phantasy Star Online DC     Sega 78     8.6    89.7%    89.4%
21. The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind PC     Bethesda Softworks 100 8.7    89.6%    89.4
22. Golden Sun GBA     Nintendo 98     8.7    89.6%    89.9%
23. Neverwinter Nights PC     Atari 117     8.3    89.5%    88.9%
24. Final Fantasy VIII PS     Square Enix 66     8.4    89.1%    89.8%
25. Pokemon Red GB     Nintendo 29     8.2    89.1%    90.7%
26. Paper Mario N64     Nintendo 58     8.7    88.9%    89.0%
27. Dark Cloud 2 PS2     SCEA 119     8.4    88.8%    88.7%
28. Jade Empire XBOX     Microsoft Game Studios
130     8.5    88.7%    89.3%
29. The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind Game of the Year Edition XBOX Bethesda ftworks
38     8.7    88.3%    89.3%
30. EverQuest PC     Sony Online Entertainment 47 6.8    88.2%    87.2%

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看看回的帖子就知道了，不少人的连“欧美没有RPG”这种话都能说的出来，还投什么票呢真是的～～

不客气的说，这就素忘本啊～～～

t5t6

什么人爱什么样的游戏文化背景不同
我喜欢日式

svd

不喜欢美版的RPG的风格，都是D&D类的。