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仍然在nba live中迷茫的玩家来看看吧!翻译完毕!

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 楼主| 发表于 2006-10-16 19:38  ·  英国 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
首先,我曾经也是live的fans,过了N年live陪伴的日子!但当我认识了2k以后,就再也无法接受live的操作性了!

相比真正的live fans不会有人不知道www.nbalive.org这个论坛吧? 英文的论坛,但是多年来一直制作着PC版的各种补丁程序,他们可以说是真正的live铁杆fans. 然而,当今年的live07出现后。。他们发布了这样一条消息!
http://www.nbalive.org/portal/page/525

大家可以去看看。(作了适当的翻译)
As long time NBA Live fans, some of us even from when EA was putting "vs." in their titles, we have been around the block with EA many times. Most of us have gone beyond mere fans into "fanatics" spending countless man-hours on fan sites or making modifications or patches for the games. Even those of us who have not, have spent as many hours involving ourselves in an ever expanding community of other NBA Live fans. If anyone deserves the tag "hardcore fan" it's us. We have stuck by EA and NBA Live in the face of serious competition from the 2K series.

作了很久的live fans, 我们其中的一些人是从EA 使用VS 做名称的时候,就开始玩的。我们中大多数人已经远远的超过了fans,而是进入了狂热者的行列,每年用掉无法计算的时间来制作补丁,管理论坛。
我们用铁杆fans来称呼我们自己是绰绰有余的。在面对着2k的竞争的情况下,我们一直是EA和NBA LIVE的忠实者。

For us however, NBA Live 07 is the final straw. The one that broke the camel's back. The spark that set the field ablaze. Until this release we overlooked any flaws in the game, ones that some of us considered major even if others of us considered them minor. But this release has ignited feelings that EA doesn't care about its fans, which is the reason we are writing today.
对于我们来说,nba live 07 也许是我们的希望,是一个可以点燃激情的时刻。但当07 发售的时候,我们再一次感觉到游戏中的缺点,我们当中的一些人觉得是很小的缺点,甚至有一些觉得是相当严重的BUG.最终的发售让我们觉得EA并不关心我们这些fans,这就是今天我为什么要写下这一切的原因。



Whether EA does or does not care about its fans, the bigger issue is perception, and the image that EA presents is that they don't care. Every year, we as a community submit one or more wishlists, often with the same wishes from year to year. A lack of implementation of the wishes sows seeds of belief that EA isn't paying attention. When EA releases a game in which the CPU won't even use its bench, and overrides user substitutions, it sows seeds that EA doesn't care and just wanted to cash in. When major online media do not recieve review copies, it leads to the belief that EA knew the product was defective but proceeded anyway. When community members contact EA and receive a response that seems to imply EA isn't too interested in fixing the problems, and telling us to wait until the next game, it does quite a bit of harm to our faith in the company.
无论EA是否关心我们这些fans,最重要的问题是一种感觉,那种EA从来不关心我们的感觉。每年,我们作为一个社区,给EA提出很多希望与建议,常常是相同的建议,一年又一年。EA从来不关注这些我们提出来的建议。当EA发售了一款完全不用替补球员的游戏,完全不考虑玩家换人的游戏,更加的体现出EA只在乎钱,完全不在乎别的东西。EA虽然已经意识到了游戏中的种种BUG与缺陷,但是仍然将其发售。当我们的社区人员联系EA,并且得到回复的时候,EA的表现是并不在乎这些缺点,也没想过要去修复这些BUG.只是一而再再而三的让我们去等待明年的游戏推出,这点实在的打击了我们对EA的那份信念!

While we'd love a patch to fix the major issues with the game, that is not the major focus of our letter, as we have a patch petition for that. Our focus is not simply on this release, but a sense that we also see in other EA-related communities whether it's the NFL gaming community or the people who play *** 2.
我们仍然乐意去推出补丁去修复这些严重的问题,我们信的重点不在于此。我们的重点也不在于nba live 07,而是EA完全不在乎我们,无论是nba NFL 或者是 战场2.


At one time, EA was producing the best titles money could buy and one had little reason to look elsewhere. Now gamers have a sense that if you want the best, it's not EA. Whether it's looking at the NBA 2K series for our basketball game fix, users leaving *** 2 because they feel the problems will never be addressed, or former FIFA players moving onto Pro Evolution/Winning Eleven, it's a sense that we are all sharing. We look at NBA Live over the last few years and we see the same basic game being re-released with new fancy features. The same elemental problems from the last few years are still there, some have been tweaked but the overall issues still exist. While there are plenty of new features, it gives the impression that EA is saying in response to the lingering issues "yeah, well, HEY! Look at this!" Be it All-Star Weekend (a long time wish that EA has in fact fulfilled), superstar moves or dynasty additions. While those additions are nice to have, it is piling on a base that cannot support it. Instead of addressing the underlying fractures, EA is just constructing a new structure on the old crumbling foundation.
很久以前,EA曾经拥有最好的游戏,可以用钱买到的最好的游戏.但是现在呢?如果你想要最好的体育游戏,EA绝对不是你应该的选择,2k系列拥有最好的篮球游戏.离开***2的玩家认为,ea是绝对不会解决***2中存在的问题的.曾经的FIFA玩家也逐渐的走向了实况的道路,这些现象都是公认的!我们一起来回顾下过去几年中,NBA live系列使用了同样的游戏引擎,只是加入了一些新的特色罢了.同样的BUG,一年接着一年的存在.虽然每年都会有一些新的特性发布,EA总会给人一个惊人的新特性来掩饰那些仍然存在的问题,他们经常会说"yeah,well,Hey!看看这个新玩意儿!"好比全明星周末(EA在N年后终于把这个功能加入了),明星动作,王朝的新元素。虽然这些新元素都是不错的调节剂,但是将这一切放在一个完全无法承受的地基上。。只会让live走入更加无法承受的地步,EA只会在一个原本已经很糟糕的基础上+一些无关紧要的新元素罢了。


As alluded to earlier, it's not just the practice of EA's actions as much as the perception. EA is often criticized for rushing out products, going back on its word and ignoring fans. While EA may or may not be doing that, when one hears these things, it's easy to fit what the company is doing into that mold. It doesn't help when we look at other communities, where the game developers openly participate on the forums and seem to be actively involved in the community. While EA has made overtures to the NBA Live community over the years, whether it was hiring Tim, holding Community Summit/Days, participating in interviews or sharing screenshots and videos, it still seems like EA is distant and uninvolved in the community. Even if we have an inkling EA is reading the forums daily, the impression is still there that they aren't paying attention at all. Some of us are looking for little more than EA explaining why they did or didn't do something in the game, for acknowledgement of issues or ideas presented, for assistance in greater understanding of the game.
前面已经暗示过,不仅仅是大家的一种预感,EA总是习惯性的将未完成的游戏推出给大众,背叛了自己曾经的承诺,然后无视我们这些fans.无论EA是否真的像我所说的那样,虽然EA的制作者会经常来我们的论坛看看我们所提出的建议,并且看上去他们真的有何我们这个社区融入到一起。在最近的几年里,经常会和我们分享一些截图,一些视频信息,但是,我们仍然觉得EA和忘我们的距离越来越远。我们的意见从来没有被采纳过。

When we find major issues in the game and hear nothing from EA. When we take the steps to contact EA and get a response that seems to do more to harm our opinion than satisfy us. And when we're told we shouldn't share what EA has told us. It all serves to reinforce our negative perceptions. If this continues it seems inevitable that more and more players will eventually give up on NBA Live.
当我们发现了游戏中严重的BUG后,并没有得到EA的任何回复。当我们尝试去联系EA并且得到回复的时候,并不是让我们满意的回答,而多数是让去反驳我们所提出的建议。当我们被告知,不应该将我们知道这些信息和整个社群分享的时候。只能让我们对EA有了更坏的印象。如果这样继续下去的话,只会有更多的人更早的放弃NBA LIVE系列

The question that we're increasingly asking ourselves becomes, while we're willing to put in the effort to improve the game, is EA?

最后的不翻译了。。。。因为不会实现的事情,就不要去问了!

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只是将大概的意思翻译了下,没有逐字逐句的翻译。只是想让大家了解下支持了Live多年的一个BBS...也要放弃Live了。。。我想问大家还在痴迷什么呢? 所谓感情,是互相的。假如一个你爱了多年的人,你却发现他完全不在乎你的时候?你难道还有勇气继续无私的爱下去吗? 假如你知道,你爱的人只在乎你手中的钱? 你还会大胆的爱下去吗? 如果是我,我不会,我不能要求别人也和我一样不去爱她,但是我会告诉我自己,不能在这样执迷不悟下去了。也只能为那些仍然处于执迷状态的人们打上一个警钟。。。。说不定有一天,你们也会和我一样恍然大悟(虽然我在N年前就觉悟了),到那个时候回忆起曾经为那个完全不在乎自己的人所奉献的时间。。。真的觉得不值得!

在此衷心的再次强烈的要求大家。。。投入nba 2k系列的怀抱吧。她是一个懂得爱的人,当你支持她的同时,她会让你看到回报。让你懂得什么才是真正的爱!:) 

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发表于 2006-10-16 19:46  ·  陕西 | 显示全部楼层
本来要买的.....算了........连人家铁杆粉丝都这样说了~~难受点等2K7!
zyk

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发表于 2006-10-16 19:50  ·  江苏 | 显示全部楼层
坐板凳等全翻译~~~~~  ^^
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发表于 2006-10-16 19:57  ·  广东 | 显示全部楼层
我是96开始玩LIVE的,这3年也没玩了,看着他们每年都坚持着一些错误的东西,也就没有玩下去的理由了~~~

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发表于 2006-10-16 19:59  ·  陕西 | 显示全部楼层
真不知道LIVE没PC版会咋样~~现在有补丁帮这帮家伙称着~
如果2K也出PC版那LIVE算是彻底完蛋了~
用电脑玩篮球游戏的家伙们没的选择啊~好像电脑上就这一种篮球游戏吧~

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发表于 2006-10-16 20:02  ·  内蒙古 | 显示全部楼层
板凳都没抢着……
我们这里的JS进了10多张LIVE 07,才进了3张2K7……怎么想的…………
奇怪的是LIVE 07卖的贼火…………JS推荐我买……我笑笑就走了
俗子怎识真篮球?

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发表于 2006-10-16 20:05  ·  陕西 | 显示全部楼层
下面是引用dxp001001于2006-10-16 20:02发表的:
板凳都没抢着……
我们这里的JS进了10多张LIVE 07,才进了3张2K7……怎么想的…………
奇怪的是LIVE 07卖的贼火…………JS推荐我买……我笑笑就走了
俗子怎识真篮球?
因为2K没货了.........
感觉LIVE现在就剩下全明星周末能玩下了~其他没啥玩的了~

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发表于 2006-10-16 20:07  ·  北京 | 显示全部楼层
NBA LIVE 这3年开始已经永远脱离不了 垃圾这两个字了.

无论是PC版还是XO版  都是垃圾!!   

等着LUDI翻译后面的!!

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发表于 2006-10-16 20:09  ·  北京 | 显示全部楼层
LUDI 你去NBAGO把这文章发去LIVE游戏研究院去吧.

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发表于 2006-10-16 20:09  ·  内蒙古 | 显示全部楼层
2K不太可能没货吧………………     
话说2K系列没有全明星模式乃一大失败(或许没版权)
虽说没什么实际意义,但咱就图一热闹     
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