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 楼主| 发表于 2005-5-2 16:19  ·  北京 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
今天去GAMESPOT看了看。铁血战士水泥丛林的评测出来了,很是惨居然才5.3分。我都好久没见过分这么低的游戏了。评论中对操作和视角的弊病指责的非常厉害。在下英文水平很差很多东西没看懂。那位英文好给大致翻译一下可否?



It's probably safe to say at this point that the Predator franchise has fallen on hard times since its glory days, when everyone's favorite man-hunting alien was going up against the likes of Arnold Schwarzenegger, Jesse "The Body" Ventura, and Danny Glover. And with a game like Predator: Concrete Jungle as the latest representation of what the Predator franchise is capable of, the downward spiral shows no signs of slowing. Imagine, if you will, a third-person stealth action game where the stealth only somewhat works, the combat is mindlessly simple, and the storyline makes Alien vs. Predator look like Dostoyevsky. Now, throw in some fairly ugly graphics, a lot of sloppy platforming, and an onslaught of moronic mission goals, and what you've got is a game you want just about nothing to do with.



With its sloppy controls and uninteresting graphics, there's not too much worth seeing in the Concrete Jungle.
In Concrete Jungle, you play a nameless hunter from the race of Predators we've all come to know and love over the years. You begin the game in the year 1930, during another very hot summer. You're on the hunt for an Irish gang member, which for some reason is never very well explained. After you relieve said gang member of his skull and spinal cord, you're on your way back to your ship when an explosion badly injures you. In grand Predator fashion, you unleash the self-destruct sequence, only to somehow magically survive the huge nuclear blast that manages to totally obliterate the rest of the city you were just running around in. After this incident, the leaders of the Predator race sentence you to exile on a remote planet for your dishonorable conduct on Earth (namely, the fact that you survived). Star wipe to 100 years later and your Predator brethren come back, seemingly to rescue you, but in actuality they've reacquired your services. It seems that during the 100 years of your exile, humans have discovered the remnants of technology that you left during your last hunt and they've used it for their own gains. Now, in the not-too-distant future, the city of your dishonor is run by numerous street gangs, consisting of junkies, voodoo practitioners, luchadores, and ex-*** stars (you can't make this stuff up, people). So the ruling Predators then send you back to Earth to clean up the mess you made.

How exactly you're supposed to do that is never made abundantly clear in the game. Your mission objectives typically revolve around finding specific gang leaders, or even just gang members walking among a crowd of people in the streets of the city, killing them, sometimes taking their head in the process, and then disappearing back to the rooftops. There are times when you can just swoop in and shank everyone in sight; there are other times you'll have to stalk your prey for a while by using the game's lame stealth mechanics; and then there are those times when you'll have to use your bits of Predator-brand gadgetry to lure your prey to you. The problem with all of the game's missions and mission objectives is that they just don't make a lick of sense. One moment you'll be stalking junkies that have some specialized (and ill-gotten) laser guns, and then the next, you'll have to intervene in a mugging. Why? Isn't this the Predator we're talking about? Shouldn't he only care about his prey, and not give a crap about a couple of junkies who beat up a guy for his wallet? And even when you are stalking a specific target, you never get a good understanding of why this person is even important in the grand scheme of things. Killing the gang leaders makes some sense, since they make good trophy kills, but you spend just as much time running around, stabbing mindless grunts and killing cops for seemingly no useful reason.

The actual mechanics of being a Predator don't translate particularly well into this game. Your basic combat tactics consist of finding a guy you need to kill, running up, stabbing him quickly (or slowly, if you use the power attack), and then running to the next guy. You get some other weapons, like a plasma cannon and a spear gun, but you rarely need them. You'll also be able to lay down some fairly grotesque executions of more powerful prey, either by simply killing them on the spot by ripping off their head or separating their top half from their lower half, or by actually going to the trouble of flaying them and then hanging their skinless corpse from a nearby rooftop. As adorable an idea as all this may sound, it, again, feels too easy and pointless. The executions are hilarious for exactly one time each, and then dull from there on out. Plus, if you've seen one skinless corpse in the game, you've seen them all.

The rest of the time you'll be jumping around assorted rooftops within the game's city and periodically cloaking yourself. The Predator is a nimble little minx and can jump very high and quite far when required. The whole city is designed like a big platforming level, with all sorts of carefully positioned rooftops and ledges for you to hop around. The problem is that the Predator doesn't handle in a very tight fashion, so it's easy to miss jumps just because you couldn't get a good handle on your jumping-off point. Also, once you're on the ground, you have to try to avoid being seen by the scattered groups of people wandering around the environment. In order to do this, you use the Predator's cloak technology. While the cloak does a decent job of at least confusing those nearby and eventually allowing you to get away if you're fast enough, people can still see through it if you're close enough, since there's still that whole visual distortion effect surrounding you. It makes sense in the context of the character, but it tends to make things needlessly diffi***.

Needlessly diffi*** is a good description of the game as a whole. Between the only moderately useful cloak ability and the frustrating platforming, Predator is not a forgiving game on any level but the easiest. Further compounding this fact is the atrocious checkpoint system that always makes you start over an entire mission if you botch any part of it. For example, in one mission, you have to follow a gang leader as he goes from place to place doing various types of gang-related business. In the process, you also have to avoid a bunch of police cameras that, like people, can see you if you get too close, even if you're cloaked. Because the city is set up in such a convoluted and labyrinthine way, it is physically impossible to get through this mission until you've memorized each and every jump, as well as the gang leader's path, so as not to accidentally run into him. The whole game is littered with this kind of annoying trial and error, and it's not fun in any way.



The constant trial and error in Predator really sucks all of the fun out of the concept.
You won't find much to like about Predator's graphics or audio, either. In fact, the graphics begin and end with the Predator model itself. It's clear that all the design and animation efforts went solely into making that model look as good as it could, and in fairness, the developers did a pretty good job with it. Unfortunately, everything else in the game is as bland as bland gets. The environments are ugly, blocky, and blurry, as are the models of all the people who wander around them. Their facial maps don't even move or animate in any way, not even during cutscenes. Though there's obviously an excessive amount of blood in the game, none of it looks that great, and, in fact, all the scenes of violence just seem very cheaply done. The PS2 and Xbox versions of the game are about on par with one another, which isn't saying much, since neither version really pushes their system's technology in any way. The audio consists entirely of bad voice acting from all the different gang types, a lot of roars from the Predator, some occasionally gooshy stabbing sounds, and a fairly unassuming soundtrack.

Once you've beaten Concrete Jungle (assuming you can actually bring yourself to do it), you'll have a challenge mode to play around with, as well as a bunch of unlockable costumes to dress the Predator up in. If playing dress up with the Predator and messing around with a bunch of weak challenges (that are actually worse than the already-mediocre main game is) don't sound like fun activities for you, then Predator: Concrete Jungle isn't going to be worth your time. There was certainly good stealth-action potential in the Predator license, but Concrete Jungle all but completely wastes it..

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发表于 2005-5-2 16:22  ·  广西 | 显示全部楼层
5.3分可能都是给高了
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-5-2 16:22  ·  北京 | 显示全部楼层
下面是引用同意注册7+1于2005-05-02 16:22发表的:
5.3分可能都是给高了

你对此游戏有何感觉,呵呵?

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发表于 2005-5-2 16:24  ·  广东 | 显示全部楼层
全是鸡肠又这么长...看不懂..

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发表于 2005-5-2 17:25  ·  江苏 | 显示全部楼层
晕~~~有人说这游戏不错~~~不知他是怎么玩的!!!???

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发表于 2005-5-2 19:08  ·  北京 | 显示全部楼层
游戏一般吧 无聊了可以玩~

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发表于 2005-5-3 01:31  ·  新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
下面是引用赤魂于2005-05-02 17:25发表的:
晕~~~有人说这游戏不错~~~不知他是怎么玩的!!!???


我就是那个说不错的人,有什么问题吗?你玩过了这个游戏没有还是来跟风的?



其实GS的评论有一定的认可性,但却不是必需的,最主要还是自己怎么看.

玩一个新游戏30分钟后就应该问自己这个游戏是否值得玩下去.

而此游戏绝对有很高的饭丝向,
就如高达游戏,说句不好听的,除了LWC和鸡脸的野望,其他的根本就是打着"高达"的名字骗钱,但是他们还是卖的开,为什么?因为高达有固定的饭丝群,而铁血也一样.


当然饭丝向并不是说就可以把游戏做"烂",但是这个游戏以饭丝向来说绝对不算"烂"
评论中说的问题我觉得非常确切,但是光说缺点不提优点实在不算一个合格的游戏评论员

我这么说是因为此评论的准确性在gamefaqs也引起了相当的争论(感觉上还是Greg Kasavin的评论才是王道啊)

这个游戏还是有不少隐藏要素的,比如武器升级和换衣服,游戏设定本身也不是如评论说完全不可取,至少在各种装备武器的运用上是空前的,而且也非常合理(如用teach vison找电缆,用voice mimicry通过保安系统)


下面也是GS的评论,不过是来自FANS的,而不是官方的.


The review of this game is a little too harsh. If you love the Predator/Aliens movies, have an extra 40 bucks to blow, and have a high def television, get this game. It's definitely a fun single player game to own. imo the graphics are fine, and the predator looks awesome. all the gadgets and weapons are fun to use and all around i give the graphics 8/10. leaping around and stalking prey is fun. you can play stealth or just balls out killing if you choose. it's like a mixture of GTA and splinter cell but you get to use a predator and you get to GORE people to the max. the story line is cool too. the audio department has got it goin on with cool music and awesome predator sounds. the AI is kind of Meh, but who cares when all you are interested in is goring people and completing missions. also, unlocking new outfits, being able to play "scenario" missions, and unlocking weapons gives the game more value. overall, i give this game an 7-8/10 for predator/aliens fans. fun game. :)

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发表于 2005-5-3 03:23  ·  广东 | 显示全部楼层
同意楼上说的,好不好要自己玩过才知道,我也不知道高达有什么好玩,因为我没看动画片.
铁血本来想暴机,主要是那些声音效果不象电影铁血战士1 2,连那个异战铁也不如.感觉pc异对铁的声音效果最好.
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