【伪技术帖】弱对强8

jfunny

lzjyahoo 发表于 2019-9-26 10:03
这个手机页面有地址吗?或者是什么app?

谷歌商店，搜peshub

swei88

squalljian 发表于 2019-9-26 10:10
19也有，感觉电脑很喜欢的一个套路就是假装在禁区前被你断球，在你还没来得及高兴就一个反抢，后卫硬直弹 ...

攻防动作硬直都大了，会有意想不到的失误发生。
而且敏捷属性都是前锋高于后卫，所以后卫更吃亏。

jfunny

lzjyahoo 发表于 2019-9-26 10:01
停球环节我尝试完全脱杆和不按任何按键反而是最柔和的,可以试试

今年的操作里多了很多放空左摇杆的操作，比如防守冲刺后放开自动降速，重心回复就快了，若是遇到上抢，半转身侧对就行，自动出护球动作包括上肢隔开抢球者这很实用，要是抢球者一直按x.会出出脚落空硬直，这时你一抹就过。总之今年攻防切记正面面对对手，除非你对变向盘带花式很熟练，还有好处不容易撞到自己人，滑倒，切换到移动方向相反的人因为指令抵消人会不动，不加方向球员依然会继续跑动。还有双r2放空方向的急停，马上接加方向的双r2的大趟

jfunny

squalljian 发表于 2019-9-26 10:10
19也有，感觉电脑很喜欢的一个套路就是假装在禁区前被你断球，在你还没来得及高兴就一个反抢，后卫硬直弹 ...

今年成功干扰掉攻方的球。但球权还不在你手里，你会看到AI队友有保护落点的反应的，如果你拿到球权马上降速回复重心耐力并护球避开密集区域，你会看到建立风格的跑向你最适合传球的路线，如果你加速往前直接面对对手的进攻第二梯队，队友会发呆罚站以此告诉你这样不好，要被教练骂的

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jfunny 发表于 2019-9-26 10:30
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非常感谢~研究一下

jfunny

swei88 发表于 2019-9-26 10:30
攻防动作硬直都大了，会有意想不到的失误发生。
而且敏捷属性都是前锋高于后卫，所以后卫更吃亏。
...

你们觉得硬直大，看看自己是不是r1一直按，x一直按，没有r2锁防，中卫balance是不是低于80(补充，今年范迪克库利巴利那种平衡偏低的大个中卫，需要边退边防保持距离的1v1，现实里也是一样，而不是去年那种疯狂上抢转身迅速简直bug.今年适合上抢的是速度快灵活高的比如马金，弟媳，普约尔，虽然他们防空差了点需要合适的战术，但是地面拦截转身回追变向花式防守是优势，去年是基本没法用只有放边路，很多人觉得今年防守呆滞了多看看平衡值，还有有同学遇到对手攻防转换一瞬间的地传说自己人没反应直接弹身上出去，身材高大重心高平衡低的人现实里也会这样没错啊).没有适当区域三角Trivote联防，r3光标切换调整三角最优范围，今年的三角站位对去年的二过一是最大的打击。封堵了大多传球路线，今年的防守只要聪明点，别啥都蛮力，别给直塞空间，边路防传中起脚前给双x，都可以吓得传中质量直接底线，怕的只有大禁区45度内弧线低弧度传后防上提的空档，今年飞身铲射那个牛

basler14

球进一步分离，停球以及后续动作衔接难度加大，高空球不再都是低弹道，体位不舒适会导致传停带射所有动作失误率大幅增加，方框键协防AI更倾向于三角站位逐渐收缩包围圈而不是原来的一拥而上模式，抢断之后的球权归属由更多的因素决定不再是原来趋向于回合制的算法，这些都是向真实球赛靠拢的转变。我认为是2020的优点。

问题也不少，很多是和前面说的优点混杂在一起的。单兵护球能力过强，球员碰撞之后各方面的偶然性过大，裁判对于各种出界犯规吹出的黑哨，各种禁区外神仙进球几率过高，球从防守方脸上也不会被断，右摇杆切换光标依然是蜜汁机制......虽然我们这群自命清高的核心玩家觉得实况朝真实化的方向进步是好的，也有耐心慢慢适应新的手感和机制，但是我们也明白轻度玩家和氪金大爷才是实况能够苟活下去的恩公，这些问题如果下一次大更新不修正一下，只怕摔盘或者怒删的玩家会更多

PS-Sunyoung

swei88 发表于 2019-9-24 13:40
这作感觉在传球者体位合适的情况下，throw要比19更精准，也不容易被后卫卡线路。
过去啪啪式的throw，试 ...

关键课题就是停好球，转好身，后面的事情就是顺理成章。所以2020对控球护球传球好的球员来说是粉墨登场的一代，不再是跑狗一统天下。

PS-Sunyoung

格格巫蓝精灵 发表于 2019-9-25 01:37
你现在这个532用的非常6啊 打的很好

这阵型用了3年多了，532迷惑对手，进攻流畅成352，挺舒服的。

格格巫蓝精灵

I think the first thing worth noting here is that Explosive Power has been renamed to Acceleration, which all but confirms my growing suspicion that EP should be rated purely as acceleration from PES 2014 onwards (though I've only played 2019). From my experience explosive power does have an effect an a players agility though, but the fox engine is "sophisticated" enough to use the actual build of a player as a determining factor of a players physical attributes in a way the the PES games of old werent .. i.e. a player with high-ish Acceleration/EP like Gareth Bale doesn't feel particularly agile in game, so for the most post high acceleration/low agility players are replicable, though there are notable exceptions as many players of this mould aren't necessarily big..

There is an off chance that the attribute itself was renamed because it functions completely differently in pes 2020, but in all honesty I think that is unlikely.




Tight Possession is now a new attribute distinct from Dribbling, I like the sound of this change alot; at first glance control seems to essentially be an equivalent of the old DA, but a more literal interpretation could imply that agility is also a factor..

This also helps emulate typically effective dribblers who don't necessarily have the best DA in PES terms (Douglas Costa and Mbappé come to mind), I'd imagine that the dribbling attribute as it will be could be rated similarly to the old DA

I don't have much to say about the Goalkeeping/GK Awareness rename because I haven't quite figured out all the new gen goalkeeper attributes yet.

Aggression looks like it's a defensive attribute (unlike the aggression of old), if I had to hazard a guess, it make function similarly to how Response did for defenders.

I didn't include this in the screenshot but there's also a new player skill called "Through Passing"

这代扭屁股过人 挺实用的