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白金了,果然游戏临摹的“samurai”只有型,没有神

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发表于 2020-7-29 11:29  ·  浙江 | 显示全部楼层
总有人在娱乐为主的游戏里寻找现实历史,就像楼主本来就是来找事的只要是个人就能发现这个意图还有这么多人一本正经的回他,图的啥?

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发表于 2020-7-29 11:36  ·  广东 | 显示全部楼层
玩个游戏这么认真不累吗。。。
再说真要换成历史假名遣你还不一定会呢,然后又该喷怎么不说现代日语了

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发表于 2020-7-29 11:49  ·  浙江 | 显示全部楼层
从新闻区慕名而来,大概猜到是谁

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发表于 2020-7-29 12:19  ·  澳大利亚 | 显示全部楼层
cakewalk 发表于 2020-7-28 16:53
For your reference, 这里的“都”表强调,不是副词“全部”。所以这里没有矛盾。 ...

spot on!!!!!

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发表于 2020-7-29 12:21  ·  上海 | 显示全部楼层
Sondheimite 发表于 2020-7-29 01:43
My quibble with this game is, to a certain degree, derived from the exact documentary included in  ...

You really have a mouth.  Though, with all due respect, the way you developed your idea and the amount of academic terms might jeopardize what you really want to elucidate.

For The intention of presenting "authentic" feelings of mdieval Japan in a half-fictional event, it is well presented in the documentary. So I m with you. Actually I agree with you in nearly every regard you posted originally, and even tried to explain them to those you are arguing with, if you care to take a peek on my words.  :P

But we may have different understandings on what we saw in this documentary. I didn't find any pressure that Nate gave to the professor. And the "eery" tone you mentioned seems to me fairly natural when a passionate big boy, travelling a long way, finally has a chance to meet the man who is an oneiromancer for his dream. If something really weird you smelt in this video, that may be because it was a conversation between a layman and an academic. the gap is huge and could not be filled easily. But I think there is no ill intention in this situation. And in fact, the professor did give him a succinct, decisive definition of "Bushido", namely, "being absolute loyal to his master","loyalty is the basis", "to fight and to die for your lord", "but you don't have to defeat your enemy", "what matters is not your victory but your sacrifice" (sorry if my memory is incorrect). To me, this is a very accurate definition of what make a samurai a samurai.  

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发表于 2020-7-29 12:35  ·  未知 | 显示全部楼层
就那个纪录片里,专门研究镰仓历史的教授表示游戏好到他要他所有学生都买来玩,这种级别的盛赞你就忽略了?
真要搞学术的人需要你来操心游戏和实际历史的差距?要说游戏有多扯淡有谁会比那个教授更懂?人家都不在意你在意个啥?

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发表于 2020-7-29 12:46  ·  上海 | 显示全部楼层
文化本来就是一种高级定制品 你看到的我  和自我认知的我 根本就不是一回事 但这不妨碍文化就在个体到个体间 群体到群天间的对焦失准的状态下产生了 个人觉得这是整个人类社会最伟大和壮丽的部分 虽然通常还伴随着分歧争议和战争

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发表于 2020-7-29 12:50  ·  北京 | 显示全部楼层
光和影 发表于 2020-7-28 20:49
其实这就是说话的艺术,楼主披头盖脸说这么一通,上来就不管对错就否定,大家质疑你很正常,楼主如真想显示 ...

兄弟你这话算说到点子上了
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发表于 2020-7-29 13:08  ·  未知 | 显示全部楼层
不要叫我大人,这里都是平等人,请你自重
这个论坛没有高低贵贱,每个人都生来平等,只是分工不同


哎呀,刚才忘记加狗头了,请管理员さま高抬贵手则个 ~
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发表于 2020-7-29 13:10  ·  未知 | 显示全部楼层
You really have a mouth.[s:154]  Though, with all due respect, the way you developed your idea and the amount of academic terms might jeopardize what you really want to elucidate.

For The intention of presenting "authentic" feelings of mdieval Japan in a half-fictional event, it is well presented in the documentary. So I m with you. Actually I agree with you in nearly every regard you posted originally, and even tried to explain them to those you are arguing with, if you care to take a peek on my words.  :P

But we may have different understandings on what we saw in this documentary. I didn't find any pressure that Nate gave to the professor. And the "eery" tone you mentioned seems to me fairly natural when a passionate big boy, travelling a long way, finally has a chance to meet the man who is an oneiromancer for his dream. If something really weird you smelt in this video, that may be because it was a conversation between a layman and an academic. the gap is huge and could not be filled easily. But I think there is no ill intention in this situation. And in fact, the professor did give him a succinct, decisive definition of "Bushido", namely, "being absolute loyal to his master","loyalty is the basis", "to fight and to die for your lord", "but you don't have to defeat your enemy", "what matters is not your victory but your sacrifice" (sorry if my memory is incorrect). To me, this is a very accurate definition of what make a samurai a samurai.  


英语回复,太高大上了,在线等楼主用纯正镰仓时代的古日语回击。加油。
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