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发表于 2023-5-27 09:21  ·  江苏 | 显示全部楼层
神海德雷克 发表于 2023-05-27 09:06
补充一点,我想说索尼连tlou2这个明知会有巨大争议的作品都能给予顽皮狗信任,这个多人也是一样的道理,顶级工作室还是有一定的话语权的


是的,顽皮狗还是没把握,需要连续更新高质量内容才能保证运营十年的游戏,那以后单人游戏都不用做了,参考大镖客2ol模式
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发表于 2023-5-27 09:27  ·  上海 | 显示全部楼层
还是按官方说明理解吧,顽皮狗又不是野鸡工作室,发言也要考虑自己品牌地位的,扯慌没必要,既然他说还需要继续做就是还在继续做,至于项目被砍这种谣言还是少传。
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发表于 2023-5-27 09:32  ·  江苏 | 显示全部楼层
hokohuang 发表于 2023-05-27 04:10
彭博社这条不是那个日本人说的而是Shreier,我是能相信的

Bungie确实在给索尼多人项目做内部评审。 索尼看来是把开拓多人游戏的指挥棒交给棒鸡了,这次棒鸡竟然能动到顽皮狗的头上…


你这个也是推理
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发表于 2023-5-27 09:46  ·  江苏 | 显示全部楼层
我觉得挺好的,细细打磨,不要像隔壁红虾岛一样在全世界丢人
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发表于 2023-5-27 09:47  ·  马来西亚 | 显示全部楼层
Jason虽然说有线人,但是通常就是一两个小角色的讯息管中窥豹,然后加上自己臆测和情绪渲染。
不过我是相信多人模式规模缩减的。我之前就一直说TLOU多人如果成了,后续持续营运需要大量人力。
除非索尼找另一个工作室帮忙,否则会把整个顽皮狗的开发人员搭进去的。到时候就很难兼顾开发新IP。
我猜Bungie鉴定后让顽皮狗认知到怎样的规模需要匹配多少人力的投入,让顽皮狗去衡量。
好消息是虽然规模缩减了但顽皮狗并没有裁员,而是把人挪到其它开发组。
我猜测多人PVE和故事部分内容和素材会用来做TLOU续作,剩下的改为纯PVP。

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发表于 2023-5-27 10:04  ·  北京 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
为啥要通过蛛丝马迹脑补给记者的话找“对得上”,到底顽皮狗和记者谁是做游戏的谁是卖流量的

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发表于 2023-5-27 10:40  ·  澳门 | 显示全部楼层
彭博社造謠然後打臉也不是今天的事,反正遊戲延期了也是事實,就讓子彈再飛一會吧
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发表于 2023-5-27 11:04  ·  江西 | 显示全部楼层
推上有个叫William R.aguilar@WilliamRAguilar的人分析的还是挺中肯的。
TLDR: Last of Us Multiplayer is Continuing Development but it Needs more time. Additionally, Naughty Dog is already working on their next Single Player Story Driven Game.

Analysis & Speculation:

After the rigorous internal review,  it seems that there was a massive shake up within all of PlayStation's Studios & Partners.

PlayStation's focus is on QUALITY 1st and foremost. To meet this higher bar in quality, for their upcoming Multiplayer/Live Service Games, Sony is using Bungie to help evaluate these games by giving advice to the studios & setting goalposts for them to reach.

It seems that if the upcoming Multiplayer Games do not reach these new higher standards of quality or goalposts in development that the games could be delayed like Last of Us Multiplayer or even (possibly) cancelled (Deviation).

However, if the game is impressive and surpasses expectations from a partner studio they could also be acquired like Firewalk Studios and their upcoming Sci-Fi PvP game: Concord.

PlayStation will continue to make both Single Player AND Multiplayer Games but they intend to apply a higher bar of quality on both. While it is true that nearly 1/2 of all future games in development are Multiplayer 1/2 will also still be Single Player Story Driven.

Despite making more Multiplayer Games this Gen, There will still be MORE Single Player Games from 1st & 2nd Party PlayStation Studios this gen than they had last gen.

Sony wants at least a few of their Multiplayer Games to be successful in order to provide a financial safety net so that they can continue to create bigger and better AAA Story Driven Single Player Games, while reducing risk due to how expensive those games are.

Remember that God of War 2018 was a HUGE Risk for PlayStation and they weren't sure if the game would be well received by fans. If that game failed, it would have significantly harmed PlayStation. By producing a few highly successful Multiplayer Live Service Games that provide consistent income over time, PlayStation can have the financial safety net to continue taking these kinds of risks in making bigger and better Single Player AAA Story Driven Games as well as New IPs.

Final Thoughts:

Since I counted about 10-15 upcoming games both known and rumored still in development that were, prior to the internal review, labeled: "Ready To Be Shown" and now post-internal review labeled: "Needs More Time." I believe that it is more than likely that there will be another Showcase or larger sized State of Play (like the two in 2022) later this year.

If I were to guess when, typically these shows have been in either the month of September or December. However, I am not an insider so this is just my speculation.

I would say that I would be extremely surprised if this is all we hear from PlayStation for the rest of the year.

Regardless of what happens, at the end of the day, what really matters to both Consumers and Investors of Sony/PlayStation is if the games/products they are making are High Quality and either Meet or Exceed Revenue Expectations. So far, PlayStation hasn't failed us. In other words, a marketing campaign failing to meet expectations is not as important as whether or not the games are good and sell well. So far, PlayStation has been good about this.

Spider-Man 2 still has 4+ months of polish before it will likely come out and that's plenty of time to knock out the kinks.

However, if both the marketing/showcases are bad AND the games are bad then we can come back and have a real conversation about what's going on.

If Spider-Man 2 is Good and Sells Well and the Next Multiplayer Games is Good and makes or exceeds the expected  Revenue then the rigorous review, that resulted in delays, which in turn resulted in a showcase that didn't meet expectations, will have been proven to be the right move.

All I can say is that there are still a lot more games to be revealed and of those already revealed, there's still plenty to be excited for!

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发表于 2023-5-27 12:26  ·  广东 | 显示全部楼层
NihiRagnarK 发表于 2023-05-27 04:22
Jason Schreier的消息我也觉得是比较靠谱的,不是望月崇那种极端份子……

不得不说是Bungie真的牛,竟然能叫停顽皮狗的项目


棒鸡未sony的多人项目打下了多少江山。当年姨夫还是谁还吹每天下班还要上命运加班去。
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发表于 2023-5-27 12:45  ·  香港 | 显示全部楼层
有顽皮狗新单机游戏就放心了
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