Xbox Series X和PS5性能参数对比

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zizap 发表于 2020-3-19 09:25
喷了...这话你自己信么？现在大家又不是没用过ssd，与其吹ssd不如期待价格低点 ...

傳統觀念上我們只看中讀取速度 但是開發者的角度不同 雖然ps5性能不比xsx 但在遊戲表現**真的覺得會有很大區別麼……更別說微軟還有個低配版
下面是其中一個開發者說的

Today at 7:33 PM
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killer7 said:

Well, well... well.
Click to shrink...
What John is saying sounds pretty right to me! I don't want to down play GPU power, but I promise everybody that you will be absolutely blown away by visuals on both consoles. However, the SSDs are the big difference when coming into this gen. We're not talking about "load times" in the classic sense. That's an antiquated way of thinking about data coming from your hard drive. For the last 10+ years we've been streaming worlds on the fly. The problem is that our assets are absolutely huge now, as are our draw distances, and our hard drives can't keep up. It means that as you move through the world we're trying to detect and even predict what assets need loading. Tons of constraints get put into place due to this streaming speed.

An ultra fast drive like the one in PS5 means you could be load in the highest level LOD asset for your models way further than you could before and make worlds any way you want without worry of it streaming in fast enough. The PS5 drive is so fast I imagine you could load up entire neighborhoods in a city with all of their maps at super high resolution in a blink of an eye. It's exciting. People don't realize that this will also affect visuals in a big way. If we can stream in bigger worlds and stream in the highest detail texture maps available, it will just look so much better.

I think the Xbox drive is also good! The PS5 drive is just "dream level" architecture though.

I can't speak for anybody else, but this is the exact kind of architecture I was saying would truly satisfy me. If someone came to me and asked if I wanted to give up a bit of pixel-pushing for the fastest drive I would take it without hesitation.

In my opinion, ultra fast drive speeds like the PS5 one are the true generational game changing technology. Series X is pretty good as well. However, the PS5 one is like a dream come true and I can't wait to see how it translates to everything from game design to lightning fast OS features.

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youko 发表于 2020-3-19 10:47
为了可能进入关卡前的1、2秒读取速度，牺牲10帧，你愿意？

現在說這些還太早了 有沒有10幀是不是只有那麼一兩秒還是等實際表現吧

rollpard

ultrak 发表于 2020-3-19 04:38
连续读写速度要在拷贝体积很大的文件比如几个G的视频才能做到。

游戏把素材拆分成很多体积比较小的文件 ...

本世代游戏的设计要考虑到非SSD的机器的，不可能出现把SSD带宽用尽的情况，所以设计的理念还是按照老的机制来的，无非就是在SSD上 loading快点

SONY敢押宝SSD，他觉得这个5G的SSD能让游戏的设计发生变化，第一方游戏当然没问题，肯定能充分利用，第三方就不好说了，得看第一方用了之后有什么效果，以及PS5的销量

犯罪哲学

数毛党要全体转职做读速党了么？

rollpard

阿爾比昂 发表于 2020-3-19 11:12
傳統觀念上我們只看中讀取速度 但是開發者的角度不同 雖然ps5性能不比xsx 但在遊戲表現**真的覺得會有很 ...

如果按照这个开发者的说法，这个SSD就不只是loading时间减少这么简单了，很多游戏设计的理念都会发生变化，但是如果到时候这些只能在PS5上实现，第三方会不会用，拭目以待吧

yingjie

godaa 发表于 2020-3-19 10:13
你确定是20%只看12t10t？36cus和52这个差一个显卡层级。

10个显卡层级的差距，独占不放出来，玩都玩不到还又个卵用...

反正我有2080，xsx什么的对我吸引力不大

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rollpard 发表于 2020-3-19 11:16
本世代游戏的设计要考虑到非SSD的机器的，不可能出现把SSD带宽用尽的情况，所以设计的理念还是按照老的机 ...

我就假設大多數第三方都發揮不出來 那麼遊戲表現上機能最強的xsx真的會“好”很多麼
兩者性能並不是天差地別 現在大多數人都被紙面數據忽悠得一塌糊塗
最後不還是第一方決勝負

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Lumi-Kumi 发表于 2020-3-19 01:39
很多人是不是都没看过Steam显卡排行榜
使用人数最多的1060也不过只占10左右像是2080Ti这种显卡是极少数可 ...

别的不说，这就出厂即灰烬版的芯片搞不好这次又有半代升级了....

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senseye 发表于 2020-3-19 01:42
我买过一块5700XT猛禽，散热规模应该已经是顶级了，在超频到2.15G的时候，显存温度已经接近100了，根本不 ...

5700XT 尤其是打人硕的，散热器螺丝都按AMD错误的规格要求拧的很松，建议你再拧半圈吧，说不定有奇效...

hjmsuper

那要是PS5 的36cu其实是维持在1.8GHz的水平，且跨平台开发者不愿为PS5做专门优化，那日常跨平台的画面岂不是要被隔壁吊着打…………

索尼看来要逼第一方以及日本的一众游戏开发商了………………

天蝎都能真4K了，难道PS5不行？都是4K的基础下，画面还怎么吊打？除非帧数差距大。